Interview with Jamie Hoyland - Part 3 (New Challenges)

As we finished Part 2 of the interview with Jamie he was describing going on loan to Bristol City during the 1993-94 season and that is where we pick up his story.

You were back at United and back in the squad when we visited Stamford Bridge on our final day relegation in 1994. I was up in the Gods at the top of the main stand that day and I don't think any fans there could believe we were relegated. Did the players ever believe it would happen and how did you find out?

Alan Kelly and I were subs and we were warming up. Ray Stubbs was there for the BBC  pitch-side and we kept asking him for score updates and each time it was, “Yep, we are alright, we are alright.” Then Harry put me on and I nearly scored. They got to two all and we were still alright, then suddenly a cross from Dennis Wise, Glenn Hoddle (who has never headed a ball in his life) has flicked one on and Mark Stein has come in at the far post and steered it home. Even then, we thought we were okay. I came off the pitch and said to Ned (Alan Kelly); “So are we alright?” and he said, “No, I think we’re down”.  I said; “We can’t be down? All the other results can’t have gone against us?”. He said; “No, we’re down!”. We got into the dressing room and a guy from The Star tried to come in and take pictures and he just got shoved out. It was a horrible day.

A few lads from the South stayed down, the rest of us came back to Bramall Lane. When we got back there were fans waiting for us, we thought we were going to get lynched. Yet when we got off the bus they were so emotional, draping scarves on us and I thought, “Wow! We have just gone down and they are treating us like this.”

It was like the end of an exhilarating ride.

Yes we’ve come to the end, we have had our photo taken, got the mouse mat and keyring. It was over. Harry had done everything he could do.  It was time to move on and start a new era. He did that with players, shifted them on after time because they’d had enough of him and he’d had enough of them. Harry always made us feel underdogs with a great team spirit, which was brilliant, but after a bit, once you’ve established yourself playing at a certain level, you know you are not the underdogs. “Don’t keep telling us we’re crap, we are alright actually.” Eventually, it plateaus out and I think that is where it had got to.

Do you still have warm feelings towards Harry, despite the issues you have mentioned and your subsequent departure, early the following season?

Yes I still have good feelings towards Harry. I fell out with him at times, but I have bumped into him a few times since and he’s brilliant. His machine gun talks, he is still funny and I have taken so much of what he taught me into my coaching career; about what you need to be a good team and how he built it. It’s not all about players, it is how you make them work as a group, how you motivate them. How you make them feel a million dollars and how you make them want to prove you wrong. He got players wanting to run through a brick wall for him and that ran throughout the club.

Was it hard leaving United early the following season? You turned down a move to Blackpool, what drove the decision to move to Burnley?

Blackpool came in for me, but I was always going to Burnley. It was similar to United; everyone in the town supported them. Okay Sheffield is divided, but you are either United or Wednesday. There are few shirts of the big clubs like you see in Preston.... Everyone in Burnley and the surrounding valleys is passionate about the club and if they like you, they are brilliant to you, if they don’t...oh my God. It is another historic, special club.

A good team spirit as well highlighted by your LEJOG for Parky?

It was another close knit group of players under Jimmy Mullen, the spirit was similar to United, even if the players were not as good. Still there was Steve Davis, Marlon Beresford,  David Eyres, Liam Robinson, Gary Parkinson, myself...we had a great bond; one in, all in. You really enjoyed training and I know that sounds daft when you are a professional footballer, but not a lot of players do.

 What changed at Burnley?

There were changes of manager; Adrian Heath followed Jimmy Mullen and then Chris Waddle took charge. I mentioned before about how Harry brought players together, got them working as a team, Chris Waddle couldn’t do that. That’s why he only lasted a year at Burnley. Chris Waddle was a brilliant player, yet couldn’t understand why everyone else was “rubbish” and he had no respect for anyone who couldn’t live up to his expectations. It was a waste of time, he was never going to be a good manager, even though he was a fantastic player.

I read a great story on a Clarets fan site about you fetching a pie for a fan from the other end of the ground at Bristol Rovers whilst warming up as a sub. The away end refreshment bar had run out, a fan approached you as you warmed up on the touchline and you popped off down the other end returning with a pie. Please tell me this is it true?

Yes it is. It was whilst Waddle was in charge and you know my thoughts there!

Waddle’s reign very nearly ended with relegation to the fourth tier though?

Over the course of the season Wadds had bombed all the experienced players out of the team, (Jamie had been out on loan to Carlisle) he tried to bring players in, tried to bring new ideas in, but he was never there. He managed from Sheffield. He gave players three days a week off a week and the senior players often ended up taking training. In the end he brought us back in for the final game of the season, a must win home game against Plymouth Argyle. Defeat and we were relegated. Thankfully two goals from Andy Cooke got us to a 2-1 win.

From Burnley you ended up at Scarborough for a season, what eventually led to your retirement?

Scarborough was a big mistake. The club had three owners, some months you wouldn’t get paid, then you would get it in cash and you wonder what the hell’s going on. Former Rotherham chairman Anton Johnson came in for a spell and thing were going awry, it was a mess. We went down to Jimmy Glass’ goal on the last day of the season and that’s when I made my mind up; I’m not enjoying it anymore. At 33 I wanted to look for a different avenue in football. I didn’t want non-league football, or six month contracts here and there.

Along with Ned (Alan Kelly), Kevin Gage and Billy Mercer we always used to meet up for an end of season drink. We were known as the Menzel’s Four. When Gagey had packed in and we were still playing he said, "You will know the day you want to pack it in" and I was always telling him that was rubbish. He was spot on.

Was it always in your mind to get into coaching?

I’d started dipping my toe into coaching waters working with the u15/u16’s at Bolton’s academy and I enjoyed it. As a player I always knew I was going to be a coach. Not being the quickest in the world I always had to talk to people around me to get them to do it. I knew what I was doing playing-wise, I enjoyed that part of the game.

You have had spells as Assistant Manager at Rochdale and working with David Unsworth as caretaker managers at PNE. Is there an ambition to move into management, or are you settled developing young talent?

I went to Rochdale working with the youth side and then had a year as assistant to Simmo (Paul Simpson). We had started in digs together at City and we are still best friends now. We had a turbulent year. He was still playing, one of the better players, so I was doing more managing than coaching, doing more of the talking at half time etcetera. I didn’t want to do that, I wanted to learn more about the coaching side, but it was still a good experience.

At the PNE academy it has gone well, we have had 13 players make their debut in two years. I would like to move on in my career at some point, be it coaching senior players, not sure about managing as you sometimes have to be lucky to drop into that. I do love working with the kids though, they absorb everything and it is a great feeling to watch someone you have developed make their first team debut and then kick on from there. We have some great talent coming through, just like Pembo has at United.

So finally, you have committed to a huge undertaking in May. Raising money for friend and former team-mate Gary Parkinson who suffered a severe stroke in September 2010.

(After suffering the stroke, the then Head of Youth Development at Blackpool suffered locked-in syndrome where his body shut down, but his mind remains active. His only means of communication with family and friends is by blinking. He lives at the Priory Highbank neurological rehabilitation centre in Bury. The aim is to raise enough money to get Gary home on a permanent basis)

I had this idea before Xmas, I want to raise some money for Gary. Believe it or not I did a New York marathon before I was 40, I’d had 8 operations on my knees so that was a challenge. For this, I wanted something  different that offered a similar challenge. I was never going to swim the channel, so it was something on a bike.

My dad never let me have one round here, so it is all a bit new, but the hills around where I live give me a good test. I put the idea out there and Chris Gibson (Burnley Head of Catering) had done Lands End - John O’Groats before, so he is doing all the logistics. Some ex-players are going to join us for bits of it, Alastair Campbell as well. The plan is to do it from May 6th to May 15th, 100 miles a day.

A mammoth task, but one that I am sure they will succeed with. If you want to know more about the Gary Parkinson Trust Fund visit www.garyparky.co.uk To support Jamie on his cycling LEJOG a sponsorship form can be downloaded here

http://www.pnefc.net/staticFiles/3c/9e/0,,10362~171580,00.doc

And with that we head to our respective cars and a short drive over to Hillsborough, where a much less enjoyable afternoon awaited us. It was a pleasure spending 45 minutes in Jamie's engaging company and I hope some of the stories and memories here are just as enjoyable to read as they were to listen to first hand.

You can follow Jamie on twitter at @HoylandJamie


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Interview with Jamie Hoyland - Part 2 (Roy of the Rovers Stuff)

At the end of Part 1 Jamie was putting pen to paper for United, despite strong interest and more lucrative offers from Wolves.

Celebrating with fellow Unitedite Carl Bradshaw after beating Wednesday 2-0 (1991) (Sheffield Newspapers)

I think you were, briefly, United's record signing. Did the fee, alongside playing for your boyhood club, put additional pressure on you?

Yes a bit and obviously it was a big step up standard wise as well. I'd come from the 3rd Division with Bury and I was playing alongside and against some very good players in Division 1. I was not a confident player, so I was always a little bit in awe. It was a case of, I'm here now, I need to establish myself alongside a team of players who had already done it. You know, all those big shot cockneys….ha ha. It took me a bit of time to settle in.

You never seemed to get a decent run of games in the team. Was that a source of frustration and how difficult was it to deal with?

Yes it was frustrating and injuries played a part. In my first pre-season we played Wednesday in a friendly.  I tackled Carlton Palmer and I got a whack on my shin. I thought, 'Bloody hell that hurt'. Anyway, we are playing our first league game at home to Liverpool the week after. Liverpool in the first league game for your home town club and Harry told me I was playing. What Harry didn't know was that my shin was going yellow, green everything and it was killing me. I just thought, 'I've got to play, I want to play'.

I played in that match and what a game it was. Huge crowd, hot, sunny day, great occasion, then Trace (United keeper Simon Tracey) fractured his cheekbone making a save and Pembo (John Pemberton) had to go in goal.  (Ian - United lost 3-1, many Blades fans blamed Ian Rush's challenge for injuring Tracey). I had the drugs test afterwards and I am stood having a widdle next to John Barnes and Ian Rush! It was surreal, I had been playing for Bury a few months previous at Newport County and Aldershot.

The Tuesday following the Liverpool game, we played Derby County at the Baseball Ground and my shin was getting worse and worse, but I was picked again to play. I lasted about 60 minutes, came off and they took me into the medical room and their doctor looked at it. I was rushed into hospital on the day after as it had turned into an abscess on my shin. When they operated they told me I could have lost my leg as it could have gone poisonous. I just so wanted to play that the pain didn't matter at the time, but looking back I think bloody hell how stupid was I? But with hindsight you think, no as it meant I made my debut against Liverpool.

Much is made of the team spirit under Harry. What are your abiding memories?

Harry used to take us down to army camp pre-season, so we turned up at Bramall Lane on the Sunday and travelled down to Arbourfield, near Reading. I had come from Manchester City and Bury, where it was very strict pre-season, no drinking, nothing. Anyway, we got to the camp and did the bleep test at night and then, I remember it clearly as I still talk to Ian Bryson about it, we sat in our dorms and all the lads are having a  shower, putting their aftershave on and getting all their gear on. I said to Jocky (Bryson) "What's happening?" and he said, "We are going out, Harry doesn't mind. As long as we are back and ready to train and work hard in the morning he doesn't give a monkeys." That epitomises everything about the place at that time. And nobody missed training. Everybody gave 100% when they had to, but everyone "played" 100% when they could do!

You scored your first league goal in a Blades shirt at Bramall Lane v Everton, do you remember much about it. Can you describe the feeling?

I am sure it was a left footer, half volley past Neville Southall. It wasn't a bad un. It was the Kop end and it is a boyhood dream fulfilled. You have stood on that terrace as a kid, been ball boy at that end and to score at that end was storybook, Roy of the Rovers stuff. A cliché maybe, but it is so true.

One of your favourite moments must have been the goal in the FA Cup victory over Manchester United at the Lane. You got in the right place, but when it came back at you off Schmeichel did you know much about it? What are your over-riding memories of the day?

When Giggs scored after 15 minutes we thought, Oh bloody hell this could be an embarrassment on telly and then we got to grips with it. Then came the goal. Glyn Hodges swung in the free kick and I should have scored when I threw myself towards it, leg outstretched in the box, but I just saw this massive Dane coming towards me! It came back off him and hit me as my momentum took me towards goal and……well yes, it hit my arm. My son slaughters me for it and I just say, "Well, I've scored against Manchester United, in front of 30,000 fans and it was on the telly."

That season saw a great cup run, culminating in the Steel City FA Cup semi-final at Wembley. You were in the starting eleven for the run of matches up to two games before Wembley, was it an injury that kept you out?

No, it was just Harry being Harry. He broke Carl Bradshaw's heart that day. I remember when he named the team, we were training at a non-league ground close to Wembley. He had named me and Adie Littlejohn as subs and Brads wasn't even in the 13. Brads grabbed his boots and chucked them in someone's garden. He was absolutely distraught. It hurt me to be on the bench. I had played in all of the cup run from the Burnley replay and then to be left out was absolutely devastating.

Was it a day of mixed emotions for you? Gutted to be on the bench, delighted to get on the pitch, gutted with the result?

Well in the end I got on for the last half hour and if it hadn't have been for Alan Kelly, the brother in law, I wouldn’t have even managed that. It was a one man show that kept us in the game.

My main abiding memory of the day is Mel Rees…..even saying his name and thinking about the day now sends a tingle of emotion through me. The FA wouldn't let him lead us out, which rankled with us all, but I am glad they didn't really because his walk around the stadium pre-match was brilliant and epitomised what Sheffield people are about. The reception from all fans was amazing and he hadn't played that much for United, but it was an amazing reception. He knew then, that was his day and it wasn't long after that he died.

On a lighter note another memory is Corky shaving his beard off in the bath afterwards. He had pledged to grow his beard until the cup run was finished and when we drew Man U in the 5th round I remember him saying,  "thank **** for that, I can get rid of my beard now we are going out!". It was a bizarre sight when he scored at Wembley, looking like Old Father Time.

How can you describe playing in a Sheffield Derby being a fan as well as a player?

I remember the first game as a player, 1991 at Bramall Lane and the first league Sheffield Derby in 11 years, first top flight derby in 21 years. Harry had got us revved up and we had heard rumours about them talking bets on how many goals up they were going to be after 20 minutes and how Shez (John Sheridan) was going to run the show.

(IR - The only thing Sheridan ran that day was into Paul Warhurst, leaving them in a heap on the floor and allowing Dane Whitehouse to break away and score United's first)

There were three Sheffield lads in our team that day and for a Sheffield lad to walk out at Bramall Lane with the noise was just…..I remember seeing Roland Nilsson, the right back for them, and he was like a rabbit in the headlights, just stunned. Whereas we were like, "Come on, I can't wait for this". First tackle goes in and it's Carlton Palmer, a melee ensues and suddenly there were ten United shirts immediately around; ready and at 'em and grabbing people. Yeah it's probably not right, but that is how much we were a team and wanted it.

Everything went right that day and I still have a picture that was taken as I came off at the final whistle, with the scoreboard behind me saying United 2 Owls 0. I keep it with my shirt.

Afterwards we all went to The Big Tree at Woodseats. Now it would be all over the tabloids, but we partied, I remember players dancing on pool tables, holding a Rottweiler with a Sheffield United scarf on! Then it started again, the day after you got the Star pull-out and you can’t wait to read it. Unbelievable times, for a week we partied and celebrated like we had won the World Cup. We had to go to Tottenham on the Saturday, yet we still beat them 1-0!

Playing in a Sheffield Derby is an unbelievable feeling, you are on the field and it’s as if you can touch the atmosphere. Everything is 100 mph, but you’re in a bubble.  The crowd’s there and the noise just seals you in. I wish I was there on the pitch today.

The emotion of a Sheffield Derby - celebrating Dane Whitehouse's goal in the 2-0 win in 1991 (Sheffield Newspapers)

In the 1993/94 season you had a spell on loan at Bristol City, was that due to injuries or form? Did you think you were likely to leave?

We lost 3-1 at Hillsborough in the Derby match and Harry blamed me. We were going away to Dubai the week after and he left me out of that. I went to see him and he gave me a bit of stick and I thought, “Aye aye! The writing’s on the wall here.” Bristol City came in and I thought that I had to get out, get away from Harry for a bit and clear my head. I was never going to go there permanently, I just needed to go and try and prove him wrong so I would stay at United.

Jamie was to remain at Bramall Lane for a little while longer. In the final part; leaving United, life with the Clarets at Turf Moor, Scarborough days, coaching and Jamie's big challenge to raise money for Gary Parkinson.

Interview with Jamie Hoyland - Part 1 (Changing Cities)

It was just under three hours before kick-off in the Steel City Derby at Hillsborough. Perched on a seat across town at the Copthorne Hotel, Bramall Lane I was chatting with a former Blades player and fan who knows all about the ups and downs of supporting the Blades and Steel City Showdowns.

Jamie Hoyland (@HoylandJamie) was a second generation Blades player, following in the footsteps of his father Tommy, who spent 12 years with United from the late 1940's onwards. He grew up not far from Bramall Lane, spent match-day on the terraces and as a ball boy pitch-side. Then, later in his professional football career, he pulled on a red and white striped shirt, spending four years at the Lane as a player.

Like me, he was heading across town to watch the Derby, a thankful guest of the BBC Late Kick Off programme. Unlike me, he was slightly worried about restraining his emotion and natural passion for the Blades, having to spend the duration of the match in the Wednesday press-box alongside fellow TV guest and ex-Owl David Hirst.

Before heading over to the wrong side of town, Jamie told me a bit about his career, taking in Manchester City, Bury, Burnley, Bristol City, Carlisle and Scarborough as well as his beloved Blades. We also chatted about his coaching career, Jamie now coaches the Preston academy, and a tough physical challenge he has set himself to raise money for friend and former team-mate Gary Parkinson.

Given your Dad's career, was a football career something you had set your heart on from an early age? Did you have an alternative?

It was always football, but with my Dad being at United, it was never going to be Bramall Lane where I started off. I was always going to be in his shadow. Even when I came back to United at 24, I was always “Son of..” and my nickname was Tommy.

I remember it as a kid, we had a family discussion with my elder brother Andrew, and it was agreed that it would be better if we looked away from Sheffield for a club. We had moved into the pub then (The Sheldon on Hill Street), which was a quarter of a mile from the ground. I had been a supporter here, a ball boy here, I’d done everything and it was time to move away and do it somewhere else. So I ended up going to Manchester City.

It was Throstles (a Sheffield junior league side) that you played for as a kid wasn’t it? How did the interest from Manchester City come about? Were they scouting over here?

Yes it was Throstles. The City interest came about thanks to John Beresford’s dad, the late John Senior, he finished up scouting a bit for Man City. I’d been to a few clubs and he took me and John Junior over there and it all went from there. It was an absolutely fantastic club to sign for and I couldn’t wait to get over to Maine Road.

Sadly you were hit with a bad injury early on in your career.

I made my debut when I was 17, I was a centre forward back then, everything was going right. I scored on my debut, then I played a few more before I drifted out of the team. I then got back in to the team, but was moved back to centre half. They then chucked me back in at centre forward for the promotion season.

We played Oldham and a lad called Gary Hoolickin smashed me from behind on my left knee and it triggered things off. I got back from that injury and my other knee went, it was a catalogue of injuries. At 20 I went in to see Billy McNeill about getting another contract sorted out and he told me I was being released. You could have knocked me over with a feather, I thought I was going to be at Man City til I’m sixty!

With young players who have shown potential but have suffered with injuries they tend to give them another short term contract to allow them time to try again. I can think of one or two examples at United in recent years, Connor Brown for example.

Oh no, there was none of that at all. It was there you go, you’ve got to sort yourself out now. I was on a wage of £85 a week when I left there and I was in a position where I had to go and find myself a living.

Any good childhood memories of being at the Lane?

Many. I remember Tony Currie sitting on the ball versus Arsenal, when we beat them 5-0. I was on the Bramall Lane end that day. I remember the final day relegation to Division 4 versus Walsall. I invaded the pitch, over the fence at the front of the Kop and nearly ripping my hand open. The police were on the pitch trying to calm everyone down by saying that we were okay, we had stayed up. I remember getting back to my Dad's pub on Hill Street and we both sat there and couldn't believe it had happened.

I remember Darlington away the following season (the match which saw United clinch the 4th Division title) and my Dad was going up and I was trying every way possible to go, but I was with City's youth team and it was my career. He had certainly had a few drinks that day when he got back to the pub.

When United beat Leicester to return to the top flight, Jamie was playing for Bury.

I had scored and we beat Cardiff, which sent them down. Obviously United had won and to top it off  Wednesday had lost at home to Forest and they had unexpectedly gone down. I remember celebrating in the Players' Bar post match and all the lads are looking at me, not really understanding what a day it was for a Blades' fan. It was so unlikely that Wednesday would go down, so to be swapping places with them as well as gaining promotion was superb. Obviously, I didn't know at the time that I would be joining United later in the Summer.

I still feel as strongly now, even though I haven't lived here since I was 16 - thirty years ago. It never goes away. I  joke with Neil Mellor (Wednesday fan and whose father played for the Owls) that they should just pull Hillsborough down and build a bigger Morrisons.

So you are released by City looking for a club and a living. What happened next?

I got a trial through Mick Summerbee at Norwich and I really enjoyed it. They wanted to sign me, but I  just didn’t think it was the right place to go. I was a local lad and Norwich was a long way away. Aldershot also came in for me, but all of a sudden I had a call from Bury as well. I’ll be honest I was a little ignorant, I had lived in south Manchester when I was at City, I’d always gone to and from Sheffield on the Snake Pass, I didn’t know where Bury was! They told me it’s just round the top side of the M62 on the outskirts of Manchester!

I went over and met with their manager, a man who was to become a mentor for my career, Martin Dobson. I signed there and then. Martin was finishing his playing career as well as managing with Frank Casper. They developed a team there of lads who had got released, like myself, and old experienced heads like Sammy McIllroy, Noel Brotherston, Kenny Clements and Mark Higgins that provided a good mix of young and old players that really helped the inexperienced players develop. It worked a treat really.

How was life at Gigg Lane, after coming through the ranks at Maine Road?

It was a massive change; the move from a big ground like Maine Road and the training facilities we had, to playing at Gigg Lane. But I had always had it in my mind to get back to where I had started, I had to prove them wrong. Whatever it took, this was going to be my stepping stone and it was the best thing I ever did.

I went to Bury as a centre half. I had never ever played midfield until I was 21 and Martin Dobson said, "I can see myself in you, go and play midfield". I said, “What do I do in midfield?” Honestly, I had never played there before at any point in my life. We played Chesterfield at Saltergate, my first ever game and I am in midfield thinking, 'Whoah what’s going on here? The ball’s over there where do I need to be?' Suddenly, I got into it and found my feet. The fact that I had started as a centre forward I think helped. They always put a clogger in at the side of me, who could rat about and do the nasty stuff, and I just used to get forward and ended up scoring a few goals from midfield, not really knowing what I was doing.

Obviously, I could play and pass the ball, but it helped that we had a fantastic winger, David Lee, who could catch pigeons. He was brilliant. We also had a centre forward called Liam Robinson and the three of us used to link up really well. I managed to make a name for myself scoring goals.

So you were making a name for yourself at Bury. Dave Bassett shows an interest, was it an easy decision to make, or was there an element of doubt that it was still not the right time?

Wolves had shown an interest and I had gone down to Molineux to speak with Graham Turner, who was the manager. We talked figures and I didn’t have an agent then and I was naive. Bury were paying me £200 a week and Graham asked me what I was after. I said I didn’t know and so he ripped a bar mat up, scribbled some figures down and passed it back to me. I actually sat there and went, “Bloo-dy Hell! Wow they’re brilliant, yeah, I’m really interested in that. I just have one phone call to make”.

I went off to find a phone to make a call to Sam Ellis who had taken over at Bury and he said. “Hold it a minute, someone’s come in for you and you need to go and talk to them I think.” I said “Who is it?”. He said, “It’s Dave Bassett at Sheffield United”. I said “Right, done!” I got up and went back to Graham and thanked him for the offer but I needed to go and speak to somebody else.

I got in the car, drove straight up to Bramall Lane and went in to see Harry, who had waited on at the club for me. It was about 6 o’clock in the evening. Harry said, “What are you after?” I thought of the beer mat, added a bit more on and told him the figures. Harry popped out of the room to talk to David Capper, the club secretary, and came back in saying “Yeah we can do that. Do you fancy signing?” I said yes and it all took about 5 minutes. That was it, my dream was coming true. United had just returned to the top division, it was perfect. Unbelievable. I went on holiday the day after and I had Wolves ringing me all the time, offering me more and more money. In the end I could have signed for a lot more money for Wolves, but once I had the chance to come back home and play that was it. It was all I wanted to do.

In Part 2, Jamie talks about his time, living the boyhood dream, at Bramall Lane and memorable Derby Days.